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Let’s Take A Moment To Appreciate The Shittiness Of This Police Union Statement On The Tyreek Hill Traffic Stop

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Some of you may have heard about this. It made all the papers (at least in the United States). Tyreek Hill, wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins, was pulled over about a block away from the stadium by Miami-Dade police officers. What started as a simple situation involving a speeding/seat belt ticket escalated quickly when Hill was dragged out of his car and thrown on the ground by officer Danny Torres.

Now, everyone is going to have an opinion about how Hill handled this traffic stop. What’s tough to explain is why Officer Torres decided it was necessary to drag Hill from his car and throw him on the ground. Even the Miami-Dade government can’t explain it, which is probably why Officer Torres is now on “administrative duty” and has been publicly reprimanded for this needless escalation.

Miami-Dade County Chief of Public Safety James Reyes said the actions in the body camera footage released by the department were “deeply concerning” and “clearly do not meet the standard we expect from law enforcement.”

The whole thing was captured on body cam. The footage can be seen multiple places, but if you want to see the entire recording free of commentary, your best best is the version uploaded by PoliceActivity.

Feel free to watch the whole thing and draw your own conclusions about Tyreek Hill’s behavior. (Also, keep an eye out for the invocation of Florida’s 25-foot cop halo law, which happens about 13 minutes into the recording.)

So, the cop has been taken off the streets and pretty much everyone has offered up their opinion on the stop and the officers’ behavior. What can’t be argued are the facts: Hill was dragged from his car and pinned down on the ground by an officer who couldn’t handle being momentarily (and directly) ignored by the Dolphins wide receiver.

But the most ridiculous response comes from the most ridiculous of quasi-public institutions: the local police union. Despite no one asking the South Florida Police Benevolent Association (SFPBA) to weigh in on the incident, it has chosen to do so anyway, resulting in this exonerative-tense word salad that highlights everything that’s ridiculous about police unions and copspeak. Here’s SFPBA president Steadman Stahl, coming to us via Courthouse News Service.

“Before the Dolphins game yesterday, an incident occurred where Tyreek Hill was placed in handcuffs before being released,” Stahl said in a statement. “First, to be clear, at no time was he ever under arrest. He was briefly detained for officer safety, after driving in a manner in which he was putting himself and others in great risk of danger.

“Upon being stopped, Mr. Hill was not immediately cooperative with the officers on the scene who, pursuant to policy and for their immediate safety, placed Mr. Hill in handcuffs. Mr. Hill, still uncooperative, refused to sit on the ground and was therefore redirected to the ground. Once the situation was sorted out within a few minutes, Mr. Hill was issued two traffic citations and was free to leave.”

Glorious. Just truly a masterpiece of quasi-English. Stahl pins down the time (“before the Dolphins game yesterday”) before distancing cops from their actions and his words from reality.

“An incident occurred,” an occurrence that apparently involved no one or any actions, but one “where Tyreek Hill was placed in handcuffs” by some unknown handcuff wielder.

“Mr. Hill was not immediately cooperative.” “Immediately cooperative” means nothing more than a cop used force and needed to justify it after the fact. In many cases, people who are not “immediately cooperative” are trying to be the adults in the “occurring incident.” They’re trying to de-escalate and calm down the cops (and there’s always more than one — there were at least 10 officers “involved” in this “occurrence”) who are shouting or pointing guns at them or both. People trying to do nothing more than talk to cops who want them to shut up are considered “not immediately cooperative.”

The thing is, Hill was immediately cooperative. After being told why he was pulled over (speeding, no seat belt), his first response was “Write the ticket. Do what you got to do.” That’s “immediately cooperative.” What the officers didn’t like was that this was followed by Hill rolling up his window while putting his seat belt on. That’s when things escalated because Hill did not “immediately cooperate” with demands he roll his window back down, despite the officers having his license and Hill’s verbally expressed preference that they get busy with the ticket writing.

When he was finally ordered to exit the car, he was never given a chance to “immediately cooperate.” In fact, there wasn’t really even an order. The officer simply said “We’re not doing this” (referring to Hill being argumentative) and dragging him from his car.

Finally, there’s this bit of copspeak shittery: “redirected to the ground.” That’s what cops (and cop reps) use when they’re talking about someone being dragged out of their car and thrown to the ground, before being pinned down while being handcuffed, despite cooperating fully with the handcuffing process. Calling this “redirection” is like defending tripping someone by claiming you did nothing more than move them more in a groundwards direction, possibly without any malice aforethought.

Whether or not you think Tyreek Hill handled this stop well, you can’t deny this is any extremely stupid and self-serving statement that pretends things just happen on their own and if any bad things happened, it was because someone other than a cop caused it to happen.

But this statement is even more meaningless in context: the officer who dragged Hill from the car has been publicly admonished and taken off active duty. He also has a long history of misconduct that might have gone unnoticed if he hadn’t chosen to do his usual thing during a traffic stop involving an NFL star.

The Miami-Dade Police Department released the employee profile of officer Danny Torres showing he was suspended for as many as 50 days between 2014 and 2019.

The first suspension was for five days in February 2014, the records show. He received three more five-day suspensions in 2016; one in February and two in September. In October 2018, he received a 20-day suspension and 10 days in June of the following year.

Records also show that Torres, a 27-year veteran, received four written reprimands between March 1999 and September 2020.

Now, if you’re thinking this doesn’t seem like much for a 27-year veteran, that only means you’ve set your standards lower than the Miami-Dade PD. I don’t expect every officer to have a clean record for the entirety of their career, but I’d prefer that an officer who was suspended 50 days over a five-year period was no longer a police officer. The goal should be the perfect record. Anyone who violates the rules annually (as Torres did from 2014 to 2019) shouldn’t still be collecting a paycheck from the public. If he wants to try violating company policies in the private sector, he should definitely be given that option.

And the next time a police union rep calls up reporters to offer a statement, they should be given a firm “no, thanks.” It doesn’t even need to be a polite “no.” They have nothing to offer but excuses, mangled English, and hasty white-washings of the truth. They have nothing to add to the conversation and we all get just a little bit dumber every time they open their mouths.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'It wasn't 'assaulting a civilian', it was a 'vigorous physical debate'!'

Finally, there’s this bit of copspeak shittery: “redirected to the ground.” That’s what cops (and cop reps) use when they’re talking about someone being dragged out of their car and thrown to the ground, before being pinned down while being handcuffed, despite cooperating fully with the handcuffing process.

Someone has clearly been taking notes from the ‘enhanced interrogation’ scumbag when it comes to throwing together tame sounding phrases for atrocious actions.

Anonymous Coward says:

So what do cops do to women that don’t show respect?

Rape them I assume. Because that’s how you “respect” a man.

The thing this ultimately shows about cops is they all are evil and vile pieces of shit that will abuse their power to bully people. Because cops are just pathetic bullies.

But nothing will ever be done until cops screw up and murder part of the ruling class.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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You think the cop is a POS?
Tyreek hill is a wife beating child abuser, who is also being sued for intentionally hurting a woman and breaking her leg after she embarrassed him in a light hearted backyard game of football.

His disrespect for the officers was disgraceful.
He was race-baiting, until he realized that the arresting officers were also minorities.

He is constantly in trouble with the law and has no regard for anyone but himself. I am rooting against him in football and in life.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Worth keeping in mind...

…that Hill is only alive because teammates were present, watching and filming. If the cops had him alone, they would have murdered him, because that’s what cops do: murder innocent people. That’s why most of them are cops: they’re psycho killers who are just waiting for the opportunity to kill someone and get away with it.

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Edward Robert Strelow (user link) says:

Tyreek Hill Police Stop

Talk about shittiness of the police statement. Hell the writer of this story has shit-for-brains. I have seen the video and Hill rolled up his window, after being told not to. It was so dark that it did not allow the police to see what was going on. He could have been preparing a gun there. The police deal with this situation all the time, in fact such windows are illegal here in California. If it is a question of police safety versus the the ability of Turkee Hill to try to assert his masculinity I go for the cops.

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Bill Merk says:

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If it’s illegal in Florida they should have given him a ticket for the tint. If it’s a safety issue, y is there no law requiring u to keep the window down during traffic stop, especially in states where dark tint is legal. And if I owned a million dollar sports car I wouldn’t want anyone, under any circumstances, putting their grimmy mitts on my car, especially a cop

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Hell the writer of this story has shit-for-brains.

Starting out with an insult of the author is a sure-fire way to indicate that you were triggered. I would assume ‘getting your attention’ is somehow the point of the article. Way to ‘take the bait!’

He could have been preparing a gun there.

He probably should’ve. He was clearly in danger. And what if he was? Take it up with DeSantis, who championed Constitutional Carry in Florida. That right applies to Tyreek Hill as well.

I’d have expected the law enforcement officers to be aware of that, wouldn’t you?

It was so dark that it did not allow the police to see what was going on.

Maybe they should’ve been writing their tickets, so they could get out of that potential ‘danger zone.’ And don’t you find it interesting that the unarmed people standing around filming weren’t remotely as scared as those well-armed cops?

I like cops who aren’t afraid of hypotheticals that people like you use as excuses.

The police deal with this situation all the time

I’m sure they do. And despite that ‘experience,’ they still manage to fuck it up. It’s almost as if they’re incapable of learning.

in fact such windows are illegal here in California

This incident occurred in Florida. Florida is not in California, shit-for-brains.

David says:

Here is a line I like:

driving in a manner in which he was putting himself and others in great risk of danger.

“great risk of danger” is actually whenever you drive a car because it is a powerful machine that can do tremendous damage.

Now actual danger (namely increased likelihood of an accident) rather than “risk of danger” would be arguably actionable rather than a nothingburger.

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Darrin says:

Did you see the same video I did? He was uncooperative and did not comply with the officers’ orders. In no way was he immediately cooperative. The only thing shitty about this whole thing is your so called reporting. You’re simply looking for a reason to shed a negative light on law enforcement. Tyreek Hill is entirely responsible for his poor behavior which caused the escalation. Saying he was deescalate the situation is nothing short of a blatant lie. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to escalate tensions after the fact. Keep your stupid, uneducated opinions to yourself. You did nothing but prove how unintelligent and ignorant you really are.

Bill says:

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I don’t need a commentary from the cops when I get pulled over for speeding. The only reason cops talk is to try and get info to turn a traffic stop into a story. DL, proof of ins, and registration. That’s all that’s required for a traffic stop, ask for that, take it, do ur thing, and give me ticket. That’s what he asked for and that’s what the cops should have done. The cops commentary escalated the situation, and when hill didn’t wanna hear the cops bullshit, he rolled up the window, then the cop got butt hurt cuz hill was going to listen to his shit

nochange says:

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You are correct, that is how it’s supposed to work. Unfortunately police officers are very vulnerable and face a lot of unknowns when stopping a car. It is paramount that they can see everyones hands in a car during said traffic stop, otherwise there is a possibility someone has a weapon that can endanger the officer’s life. Also unfortunately it appears TH’s car has super tinted privacy glass, making said visibility impossible. Had Hill left his window down and actually listened none of this would have escalated. The threat inside the car necessitated an escalation to keep the officers safe. No it’s not because you are black, it’s because you have a problem following clear instructions.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Unfortunately police officers are very vulnerable and face a lot of unknowns when stopping a car.

What about the occupants of the car being stopped and approached by an armed person? Are they vulnerable?

They don’t know why they’re being stopped. They’re supposed to just wait there and hope they survive the encounter, with an armed, scared, marginally educated idiot with a potentially out of check ego coming up on them?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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This so called newspiece is crap and one sided.

Yeah, they should’ve asked the police for their side of the story, right? Turns out they did. And it’s also in the ‘one-sided article:”

Miami-Dade County Chief of Public Safety James Reyes said the actions in the body camera footage released by the department were “deeply concerning” and “clearly do not meet the standard we expect from law enforcement.”

Seems like the police are trying to distance themselves from the power-tripping shitbag, doesn’t it? I wonder why they’d throw one of their own under the bus.

Tyreek is not the Miami-Daded County Chief of Public Safety – that means it’s not Tyreek speaking. Just in case you were confused…

Here’s SFPBA president Steadman Stahl, coming to us via Courthouse News Service.

The SFPBA is the police union, not Tyreek’s. That’s important as it explains who is talking. Tyreek is also not Steadman Stahl, in case you were unsure.

“Before the Dolphins game yesterday, an incident occurred where Tyreek Hill was placed in handcuffs before being released,” Stahl said in a statement. “First, to be clear, at no time was he ever under arrest. He was briefly detained for officer safety, after driving in a manner in which he was putting himself and others in great risk of danger.

“Upon being stopped, Mr. Hill was not immediately cooperative with the officers on the scene who, pursuant to policy and for their immediate safety, placed Mr. Hill in handcuffs. Mr. Hill, still uncooperative, refused to sit on the ground and was therefore redirected to the ground. Once the situation was sorted out within a few minutes, Mr. Hill was issued two traffic citations and was free to leave.”

One cop saying the cop is unstable, and the union defending said cop, who remains on ‘administrative duty’ because of the great job he did in handling the stop.

Again, all Tyreek there, right?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Because either the cops (or their apologists) seem to think that police not being able to see something puts them in danger.

My point is that with concealed carry without a permit being legal, they’re not just going to be allowed to ‘relocate to the ground’ anyone who might have a gun because they’re scared.

The sooner they learn that, the less money and negative publicity they’ll cost the county.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Feel free to make your own calculations.

The vast majority of times the subject of weapons is brought up is when the cop does so (presumably because he’s scared that he might not be the only person armed during the stop).

Like I said previously, your time would be better spent educating cops on having to suck it up and live with an armed populace, since an armed person isn’t necessarily breaking any law by simply being armed.

You’re looking at the wrong end of the problem.

Rodzilla (profile) says:

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You can legally handcuff someone while they are being detained. Amazing how people run their mouths when they have no idea what they are talking about. Did Tyreek deserve to be put on the ground, NO. Should Tyreek have refrained from running hsi mouth? Yes. The cop tapped his window and asked Tyreek to put the window down, without lowering his window Tyreek replied “Don’t bang on my window like that” the cop again tapped on the window and repeated his request that Tyreek lower his window. Again,without lowering his window, Tyreek responded with ” Don’t bang on my window like that” at that point Tyreek Hill is considered non compliant and he’s lucky his window wasn’t broken.

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NotTheMomma (profile) says:

Where, I don’t think the office’s actions were warranted, neither was the football player’s. They tell him to keep his window down and he rolls it up. He did like I would expect anyone with money would. The only difference was the color of his skin so the cop overreacted rather than calm the situation.
As to the actual article, cops protect their own, not the public.

nochange says:

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At least from the POV in the video his window appears to be highly tinted, officers need to see inside the vehicle at all times. Hill’s actions were creating a potentially dangerous situation for the officer, so taking him out of the car was needed to remove said potential threat from the situation.

I find it hilarious that he is saying he can’t sit himself on the curb because he had knee surgery when he’s playing freaking tackle football for a living.

Semo says:

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I couldn’t agree with you more. He instigated a negative contact with law enforcement by his entitled behavior, tested the limits and got what he deserved. Now he’s “fragile” but going to play football… that’s rich!! Just cooperate with the cops when they contact you if you’ve done something wrong… like speeding and not wearing your seat belt. Hill’s a great football player and an idiot human being.

Anonymous Coward says:

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When ordering an Uber, I always request a particular Arab American driver because he is very respectful to passengers and drives both efficiently and carefully, making me feel safe in his car, so requesting a driver of a particular ethnicity is not a problem if it’s for reasons other than their ethnicity.

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David says:

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Why should he have gotten out of the car? They had his license and were going to write him up. They don’t need him outside of the car for that, or in handcuffs, or on the ground.

That was just for their personal satisfaction, and personal satisfaction is not a law enforcement missive. Other people have job frustrations too but they don’t get to take them out on their paying customers.

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DA Pilit says:

I watched the video. When Hill rolled up his window there was no way to see what he was doing or reaching for. He needed to roll down his window immediately. I’m not in law enforcement, but when I’ve been pulled over, I have my license or wallet on the dash and hands on the steering wheel. I’ve always been treated fairly and respectfully. Hill started this going downhill.

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Steve Johnson says:

Always interesting to read the bootlickers comments

I’m not fan of Hill. But police have to follow the law and procedures and not let their ego get the better of them. Or taxpayers pay for the lawsuits. Hill DID COMPLY. The cop said roll your window down the second time, which Hill did, and the cop (pig in this instance) said keep it down or you’re getting out of the car, then escalated, “as a matter of fact get out of the car” (ego was hurt), Hill said, okay, but the cop dragged him out of the car and face first onto the ground. Hill can talk to the cops anyway he wants, that’s the 1st amendment. Police should be professional an calm (and there are plenty of good police who do act this way). It’s no surprise the POS pig has been suspended multiple times. And it’s no surprise the POS pig in the union justified his actions. If lawsuit settlements came out of their retirement fund you’d see the unions bash bad cops too. But they have no accountability and no loyalty to the public, just other cops.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Watch the video, the window is highly tinted and you can hardly see inside the car.

Did he receive a violation for the tint? Did they even measure it to see if the VLT was within Florida’s limits?

Not receiving a ticket for something so many commenters are fixated on, especially when officer safety is a big concern would be strange, wouldn’t it?

What if he got pulled over by another cop and that cop got hurt because he couldn’t see inside? Doesn’t that seem irresponsible of the police?

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George says:

nonsense

There was absolutely nothing controversial about this police interaction at all. The officers’ right to go home alive dominates and completely supersedes Tyreek’s right to mouth off to them and disobey their lawful orders to keep his window down during the interaction. Many officers end up not going home alive because they didn’t see someone’s hands during a traffic stop. Contrary to the general public’s wrongfully held belief, the cops absolutely DO have every right to order you out of the vehicle during a traffic stop (see Pennsylvania v. Mimms). If you do not comply with their commands, they have every right to make you comply.

Regarding the finer points of whether the officers gave Mr. Hill enough time to comply with their commands before they yanked him out of the vehicle, we shall give deference to the courts. However, anyone who thinks they don’t have the right to yank you out of the car and place you in restraints (temporarily) during a traffic stop does not understand how the law works.

Don’t mouth off and cop an attitude toward the cops when they stop you. Keep your windows down and dome lights on with your hands on the wheel, and do not make any sudden movements while they’re talking to you. They have no idea whether you might be a desperado and they might act accordingly if you start doing anything weird.

Tyreek could have easily avoided all of this had he simply complied with their lawful orders rather than attempt to disengage with him. He was given the chance to comply and he did not.

Absolutely zero shame from any of you leftists here. Race baiting left wingers are the problem in this country reveling in your self-pity and using race as a rhetorical cudgel to beat others over the head with. Offended by everything and ashamed by nothing!

The police union did a great job with this well-crafted statement designed to protect its members from priviledged multi-millionaire football players with a platform who have zero clue what it’s like behind the badge. Screw all of that, every single one of you is incorrigibly in the wrong; you don’t know what you don’t know.

Anonymous Coward says:

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The officers’ right to go home alive dominates and completely supersedes Tyreek’s right to mouth off to them and disobey their lawful orders to keep his window down during the interaction.

This is complete bootlicking cop-fucking nonsense.

The public has rights in their interactions with law enforcement. And that includes rolling their window back up after handing over their requested paperwork. And, yes, they have the right to express their opinions.

It’s amazing how much copfuckers hate the rights of anyone else. You serve the public. Start acting like it.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Many officers end up not going home alive because they didn’t see someone’s hands during a traffic stop.

Florida is a Constutional Carry state. They had better get used to the possibility of the people they interact with being armed. Thanks Ron DeSantis!

Since we’re all presumed innocent until proven guilty, I could care less what the well-armed coward with the badge is afraid of. As I said before – if you’re too scared, wait until you have a job where you have to face accountability.

who have zero clue what it’s like behind the badge

Yeah, administrative leave’ instead of being fired, qualified immunity because you can’t be expected to know what the fuck you’re doing, and an army of fools like you who think that still isn’t enough.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Putting up a tinted window block the cops vision of what he was doing inside and then refusing to roll it down is plenty of justification, never mind the sass he was giving the cops.

They had his paperwork – what more is there to talk about? They’re entitled cops who think any question they ask deserves an answer.

And I have yet to see any reporting on whether he was given a ticket for such ‘dangerous’ window tint…if it was such a threat to police safety, they certainly wouldn’t want to put other police in danger by ignoring it, right?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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You can always tell the copfuckers when they assume that cops have the right to do anything to anyone who acts in a way they disapprove.

You fuckers have no respect for the rights of anyone. You’re the textbook definition of a fascist. Assuming that because of something else you dislike, it’s fine for police to strip Hill of his rights.

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Anthony Marsh says:

Tyreek Hill

The “shittiness” of the police union, etc.? What about TYREEK HILL’S shittiiness by non compliance? First tinted windows pose a threat to police as there could be a weapon in the vehicle. All that HILL needed to do was to keep it rolled down, no confrontation. What about HILL’s shittiness when he refused to exit the vehicle? What about HILL’S shittiness when told to sit on the ground, another police protective action. HILL behaved like an arrogant entitled multi millionaire.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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First tinted windows pose a threat to police as there could be a weapon in the vehicle.

He wasn’t ticketed for tinted windows. So they couldn’t be considered that much of a threat. With Constitutional Carry (thanks Ron DeSantis!), there could legally be a weapon (or multiple) in every vehicle.

What you’re describing is a scared cop problem, which is not Tyreek’s problem. The Chief of Public Safety seems to agree, otherwise the scared cop wouldn’t be assigned to desk duty, pending an internal investigation, which will inevitably end up with taxpayers footing the settlement costs.

What about HILL’s shittiness when he refused to exit the vehicle?

I guess we’ll find out if he gets arrested, won’t we?

What about HILL’S shittiness when told to sit on the ground, another police protective action.

I guess we’ll find out if he gets arrested, won’t we?

HILL behaved like an arrogant entitled multi millionaire.

Is that some kind of crime? If it was, why was he let go?

You should remember that Tyreek was only given traffic citations. So what about ‘Hill’s “insert outrage here”‘ stuff is irrelevant since at this point, he hasn’t been arrested or charged with anything beyond traffic infractions.

The only consequences in play are concerning the cop’s job, and whether or not the county PD gets sued.

S anderson says:

Criminal misconduct

Amazing,never the idiot who created this violation ever gets blamed nobody blames hill for the speeding or reckless operation or the punk ass attitude towards the police and you wonder why there is such a great devide in racial terms and cops any other race would have cooperated but as long as asses like this show this example by the way if you’re late, leave the fuck early every time an ass like this acts like this one other entitled black man think they are above the law the distinct difference between the races, any race besides black people own up to their mistakes ie speeding reckless op .cooperating with the police would set a better example if you are going to be late leave early why do you think the chiefs let him go once a punk,always a punk

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